Coffee With Elina Featuring: RemoteLock

In the first episode of Coffee with Elina, Duncan Chappell speaks with RemoteLock’s Jessica Dion and Stuart Duncan about smart access management for serviced apartments and hospitality businesses. They discuss hardware-agnostic integrations, automated guest access, energy-saving thermostats, checkout notifications, offline credentials, and the benefits of connecting property management, locks, cleaning systems, and IoT devices. The episode also showcases the Elina–RemoteLock integration and explores upcoming innovations, including mobile credentials, expanded hardware support, and RemoteLock’s virtual intercom.

The transcript 

Duncan (00:00)
hello and welcome to Coffee with Elina I'm Duncan Chappell the commercial director of Elina PMS and this is our first Coffee with and for our first Coffee with we've selected one of our favorite partners RemoteLock . So I want to welcome today Stuart Duncan and Jessica Dee and welcome how are you guys doing?

Stuart from RemoteLock (00:17)
Hi, great to be here.

Duncan (00:18)
Brilliant.

Jessica Dion (00:19)
Great.

Duncan (00:19)
Would you just like to introduce yourself

Jessica Dion (00:21)
Hi, I am Jessica Dion. I am the integrated software partner manager at Remote Lock. So I help onboard our software integrations and manage the relationship after the fact. It's been really a pleasure working with Elina and onboarding them to help our customers.

Duncan (00:41)
Super. Thanks, Jess. And Stuart?

Stuart from RemoteLock (00:43)
My name's Stuart Duncan. I'm the general manager at Remote Lock in the UK and the EU, or kind of cover most of EMIA. I've been involved in the smart lock industry for nearly 12 years, which is like a lifetime, or it certainly feels like a lifetime. And yeah, I do a variety of different tasks with with regards to helping customers specify smart lock hardware, talk about integrations, recommend Elina to to our customers.

Duncan (01:07)
This is the first coffee with I've got just a standard Catiere black coffee, an Italian number, because I like a nice calm coffee.

And I've gone with Cadbury's chocolate melts, which is your sort of I'd say it's kind of a bit of a an ornate biscuit. you know, crunchy melts chocolate center, probably a bit over the top. What have you have you got a coffee or any kind of biscuits with you today?

What are what are you drinking there, Jess?

Jessica Dion (01:34)
I have my coffee. I've got my my Nespresso. this is an intenso pod. I

it's

Duncan (01:41)
Mm.

Jessica Dion (01:41)
by my favorite by far. but yeah, Nespresso gets me through my day. This is not an ad for Nespresso. I don't have a biscuit or a pastry of any sort, so I am just gonna be jealous of your crunchy ornate biscuit.

Duncan (01:57)
Yeah, they're pretty good.

And s and Stuart yourself, you having a cup of coffee?

Stuart from RemoteLock (02:01)
yeah, but it's basic Kenko instant. Instant instant

Duncan (02:03)
Not a three in one or something like that, no.

Stuart from RemoteLock (02:05)
no no no no no. Just standard Americano and virtual biscuits 'cause they have no calories. So they're very tasty.

Duncan (02:13)
Yeah, okay. You say you mentioned you're you're on a bit of a health kick at the moment. So look, Stu and Jess, like tell us a bit about Remote Lock.

Jessica Dion (02:19)
Property operations software where they focus in access management. we are a software company that is hardware agnostic. So you know we integrate with the leading hardware manufacturers and a lot of

The business tools like a property management system, cleaning system, you know, booking platforms, you name it. Elina,

Duncan (02:43)
Mm.

Jessica Dion (02:44)
obviously, for example. but you know, the the goal is to give our end users that choice and you know flexibility when it comes to mixing and matching what is needed for their environment. you know, whether that's what type of hardware they're using, and then even from there, what type of credential they want to.

use on that hardware, what kind of connectivity type, all of those different types and ways to manage access available within one platform.

Duncan (03:13)
Well, yeah, you present choice really.

Jessica Dion (03:16)
Mm-hmm.

Duncan (03:16)
yeah. We believe in choice as well. It's very much one of our central

Jessica Dion (03:19)
Yeah.

Duncan (03:20)
values. You should be able to choose kind of the partners, integrations, choose kind of how you want how you want to work, how you wanna operate really, not be f fully

Jessica Dion (03:28)
Yeah.

Duncan (03:29)
confined to kind of one way. And so like I think

Jessica Dion (03:30)
Another pun not locked

in. Yeah.

Duncan (03:33)
Not locked in,

Stuart, what would you say are the main problems that you're solving for customers day in, day out then?

Stuart from RemoteLock (03:39)
Well, I mean w remote lock primarily is all about all about access and getting people into buildings through through locked doors. but also we're now really dipping into automation and automating the whole kind of guest flow from when the guest arrives say the front door of the building, getting them in through the front door of the building and up to the apartment, into the apartment or, you know, into the gym or the sauna or whatever whatever else is the guest.

you know, can experience in that building. so that that's primarily what we do is we we make it really easy for for the guests to gain access. And then from the host's perspective we're we're automating all those processes. So you know a big trend what we're finding certainly in the small hotel industry, boutique hotels are hosts that want to not have a member of staff sat at the reception desk handing out key cards. They want to move towards

You know, twenty four seven, self check in, use a pin code or mobile credential so they don't have to have that member of staff sitting there. And that's where we see the b kinda the biggest kind of growth, you know,

Duncan (04:38)
And one code

where possible, right? They just need to know one code or or one one kind of point of access, yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (04:42)
Yes, I mean

we we have a feature in our software called common door or door groups where once you generate the PIN code or the credential, that will work on multiple doors. So it'll work on the front door, it'll work on the apartment door and any other doors. So

Duncan (04:57)
So so what that means for the operator is they just need to communicate or you communicate that one code at the right point to the guest when's appropriate for them before their arrival or in the run up to their arrival. And that's going to give them access to things like the front door of the the overall building, the door of their apartment.

and any other things like, you know, storage doors, you know, anything that you've ch you've selected that they should have access to through that code. Making it easier

Jessica Dion (05:22)
Yeah.

Duncan (05:22)
for the guest and easy for you guys. And later on in this call we're gonna show the integration between Elina and Remote Lock because one of the things that we tried to solve was making sure that the reservations team or the operations team that are dealing with that wouldn't have to log into Remote Lock day in, day out. They just have to focus on the settings, right?

And that's what we like to call a good seamless aut you know, seamless integration. And then there's choices around automation there too. would you say there's any other problems that you're being asked to solve at the moment from customers?

Stuart from RemoteLock (05:49)
Yeah, I mean one of the one of our big things at the moment is integrating IoT devices. So in particular thermostats, and the way that that works is

we can link your thermostat to the occupancy schedule. So you've got your calendar in Elina and you'll see you've got a booking coming in, you know, for say tomorrow at let's say check-in is four PM. we can link that to the thermostat in the apartment. So you specify that the tell the heating to come on an hour before

the four pm check-in. So at three pm the heating will come on and it will bring the bring the apartment up to temperature and then it will maintain that temperature for the duration of the stay. And then upon checkout, you know, three days later at 11 AM, the heating will automatically switch itself off and cool right down. And it will remain off until the next booking, which might be the same day or it might be you know the next day or or the next week. The heating will remain off or you know at a at a a much lower temperature.

So, you know, we're

Duncan (06:43)
Yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (06:43)
we're really looking at energy saving and how we can save the the the host money.

Duncan (06:47)
I mean with energy costs,

I mean that's a big deal, isn't it? You know? Energy costs being through the

Stuart from RemoteLock (06:51)
Especially at the moment, yeah.

Jessica Dion (06:51)
Huge.

Duncan (06:52)
roof. So all operators can really do is renegotiate their energy agreements, right, with their suppliers or change

Jessica Dion (06:57)
Mm-hmm.

Duncan (06:58)
suppliers and seek to reduce you know, the actual usage of energy. So you're dealing with the second one there, aren't you?

Stuart from RemoteLock (07:04)
Yeah, and there's a big

difference. You imagine, you know, I mean you get if if you left the heating on all day and there's nobody in the apartment for a few days, then you know that you are using a lot of energy. So, you know, we can really improve on that. And I mean we've also been developing checkout solutions in addition to that, again, it's part of our kind of IoT stack where we get the guest or we ask the guest to check out either through a physical

push button like a checkout button which I've I I've kind of got one here. Or we have

Duncan (07:31)
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (07:32)
or we have a new QR code solution where the guest scans the QR code. And again what that can do through our through our automations checkout stickers. Yeah status stickers. Yeah we we've got we've got we've got a we've got a physical button. We've been running

Duncan (07:39)
Check out stickers. Is that what they are? Or is it a button? It's a it's a there's a button and you've got stickers too. Okay, cool, yeah.

Jessica Dion (07:42)
Stickers,

Duncan (07:48)
So do you want to talk us through exactly how that works? So guest is in the apartment, problem is you don't know when the guest is checking out, okay? I think this is the problem that it's solving. You don't know exactly when they're leaving.

Stuart from RemoteLock (07:58)
Sure. Well, whether it whether it be the physical button or a QR code, the when the guest presses

Duncan (08:02)
Yeah. Okay.

Stuart from RemoteLock (08:04)
the button or scans the QR code, it first of all will send an SMS message to the cleaner or to the cleaning app to tell the cleaner

Duncan (08:12)
Right.

Stuart from RemoteLock (08:12)
this this apartment is now vacant. On top of that, if we linked it to the heating system, it would also turn the heating off. So if you've got a guest

Duncan (08:19)
Yeah, okay.

Stuart from RemoteLock (08:19)
leaves at six AM in the morning, you're turning the heating off at six rather than the eleven AM we were talking about.

In the in the in the back end you're also notifying the host that the that the guest has checked out. that then

Duncan (08:30)
Course.

Stuart from RemoteLock (08:31)
enables cleaner to get in, you know, to get in earlier. if we can really drive efficiency in the cleaning operation, that room or apartment, you know, could be cleaned and turned around in a couple of hours and maybe it's ready by nine AM. And then what that then offers is new opportunities for early check-in because you know that apartment is ready at nine AM. The host then has the ability to

offer that to the next guest either on a you know paid early check in. And I mean this is something we're looking to do, really integrate in with Elina as part of that whole automation flow to try and make the whole process as kind of seamless as possible. So when the guest presses the checkout button, remote lock and Elina take care of the whole journey right through to the next guest, being able to check in early and the host

potentially,

Duncan (09:14)
Yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (09:14)
you know, earn extra revenue for early check-in.

Duncan (09:17)
you can see how you it's sort of bringing it together the the connection really between the you know, the PMS or the reservation software, Elina in this case, the door

Jessica Dion (09:23)
Yeah.

Duncan (09:24)
access, then you know, the the thermostats, cleaning apps,

Jessica Dion (09:29)
you know, when all of these systems talk, you know, we're we're really improving just operational

efficiencies across the board, all of your different systems, you know, your lock, your PMS, your thermostat, your leak sensor, all of it is when they're all talking, everything is happening for you in the background. And you know, you as the property manager just gained so much more visibility across your property, but and you gain time back in your day, to, you know, focus on other

Duncan (10:00)
For sure.

Jessica Dion (10:00)
aspects of your business because everything is happening for you.

Yeah.

Duncan (10:04)
I think one other thing that you mentioned earlier was about being lock agnostic. So we've talked a bit about automation and w we've talked about kind of the areas of innovation, things like the checkout button, you know, focusing around further integrations in the ecosystem which you operate.

do you want to talk a bit about other strengths and and being lock agnostic? Because you've got essentially got a centralized software which then allows them to reach different lock providers and maybe mention some of the most popular lock providers that you work with as well.

Jess, yeah. Yeah, that'd be good, Jess, thanks.

Jessica Dion (10:34)
I can kick this I can kick this one off and Stuart

will definitely have more value to add around maybe some specific manufacturers. But you know, something that we say here at Remote Lock, it's kinda cheesy, but you know, not all doors are created equal, not all locks are the same. And what that

Duncan (10:50)
Yeah.

Jessica Dion (10:50)
really means is, you know, just because this lock or this hardware works on this door doesn't mean it's gonna work on this door also. And that's not to say, you know, that's not to add confusion.

Confusion that's more so just to show that there are complexities when you are managing access. So instead of having to use the several different brand manufactur manufacturers individual apps, you know, you have maybe a schlag

Duncan (11:19)
yeah.

Jessica Dion (11:19)
app for this door, maybe a key and code lock app for that door. With remote lock, you don't really even need to touch the manufacturer's apps, it's all about just

being able to view it all in one dashboard,

Duncan (11:32)
Yeah.

Jessica Dion (11:33)
no matter the manufacturer and e and again, like I was mentioning in the beginning, no matter what credential type, because each lock

has

so many nuances in itself. Each lock offers different credential types, whether that's you know, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or even a card credential, or if you don't even have Wi-Fi, you can do like an offline credential, something that we call a ready pin. So you're always able

Duncan (11:58)
Right.

Jessica Dion (11:58)
to have you know management across your property, no matter where it is, where you are or what the how the property is set up.

Duncan (12:06)
That

is one of the questions that comes up quite a lot actually when you speak to operators. They say, Well, we love this idea of working with the door access, but what happens if the Wi Fi is down? And that's kind of a common question. I and it's something that, you know, you guys have t tackled, I believe, more over time to provide that offline connection so that it doesn't have to rely on having twenty, four, seven Wi Fi so that they can work online and offline, right?

Stuart from RemoteLock (12:29)
Yeah, I mean that I think there's a there's a big misconception

Jessica Dion (12:30)
Exactly. Yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (12:31)
in the industry with with Wi-Fi locks in that the lock only needs the Wi-Fi to connect periodically to download new credentials codes. The lock then goes usually goes into an offline mode and it sits basically in sleep mode until it's told to wake up and look for new codes.

Jessica Dion (12:48)
Mm-hmm.

Stuart from RemoteLock (12:48)
So if the you know once the co once the lock has got the code stored in it, it doesn't matter if the Wi-Fi goes down for five or ten minutes, because once the Wi-Fi can

comes back up again the lock will reconnect and look for n for n for new you know for more changes. So you know you don't need to really need to worry about about that. And

Duncan (13:05)
Mm.

Stuart from RemoteLock (13:05)
then with the offline, if you've got a really remote location, you know, it could be a a gate for instance, you know, to a beach, it could be it could be anywhere where there's just no connectivity whatsoever. Then is what Jess said is you can use our ready pin algorithmic technology whereby you our system will create a longer digit

Code like say seven or eight or nine digits. And that's still time sensitive. So you can still say, right, I want the lock to open tomorrow at 1 p.m. and and then after 4 p.m. to expire, and that code will only work between you know one and four, and there's no Wi-Fi, no connectivity. And then with our new mobile credentials, what you can do is if you use the a mobile phone to open, say, the padlock on that gate, we can use the mobile phone to take

to push the data back from the padlock back to our servers. So you can

still get you can still get event history from an offline device. It's just that we use the mobile phone connectivity as the kind of the backhaul for the data, if that makes sense.

Duncan (14:07)
Yeah, absolutely. It does make sense. we've tackled things like

the the choice of locks, the main problems that are being solved, the ecosystem in which you work. One of the things that we wanted to highlight, one of the reasons that we you know we love working with Remote Lock is the quality of the integration. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna screen share and I'm just gonna kind of like bring kind of real world this back to what this means for a customer that's using Elina in combination with remote lock right okay so here we go

Jessica Dion (14:39)
I

love the colours of Elina.

Stuart from RemoteLock (14:42)
That's a beautiful it's a beautiful

Duncan (14:41)
thank you. We've we've just moved to Elina 9

Stuart from RemoteLock (14:43)
calendar.

Duncan (14:44)
Yeah, we've just moved to Elina Nine actually.

Jessica Dion (14:45)
Yeah, it is pretty.

Duncan (14:46)
this is a new background for us and we've got an exciting new sort of a much you know newer version of the calendar which is updated which you know you can watch a different video on about that if you're interested to see what we've done there. What I'm gonna do today is just concentrate on how the integration kind of looks and works with the remote lock.

And for most of the time, what it means you've got a choice of three different things. You either manually trigger a lock to be created, it's triggered by somebody doing an event like checking in, or it's triggered like automatically. Okay, so if I take this lock's not configured, but if I take this lock here like 221, okay, and I click on remote lock here, you'll be able to see that what's happened automatically around this reservation is the guest is due to arrive on the twenty first of May.

They are due to check out on the 25th of May, it's already automatically created a code for them. And so if I work in the reservations teams, there's certain things I can then do. For example, I could deal with a late checkout. I could say, well, actually, well, let's do early check in. That's more likely near the start of the booking. Let's say, for example, they are arriving on the 21st, but they've asked, or you've upsold them that they can check in an an hour earlier. So we can do that and we can update it. So what we know, for example, here, this is a code driven lock that

The guest is using the code 1646, we know that remote locker communicating that code to the guest prior to check in. So what we've done is we've triggered the reservation, we've created the code, we've then communicated the times, and every single time in the reservations team or the operations team I change these days or times, it's then updating automatically so the code works for those times. Equally, if I had a problem operationally, I could remove the access. I could say actually fully block access.

You know, we need to collect a payment or there's an issue or we don't want them to get access to the apartment. And then you're on the phone with the guest and you resolve and you say, Well actually that they should have access now. I can just regenerate the access, which is then gonna automatically go back through to them. Let's say for example that the guests asks for a different code, say they specified a code that they must use. There's all the flexibility is there to be able to help you.

I really like that element to it, that you've got the control about whether they're created automatically, whether you do it manually, whether it's on a trigger event, and also that when you're actually looking at individual units, so if we go to 221 here and we go and have a look at it, we should be able to see the lock status too.

You can see this one's connected to TT lock and you can also see the power level of the lock, the signal quality, and the state of the lock currently. So we can also see that.

And there's a settings area where you can manage the the locks. let's click on remote lot settings here. You can see here you've got a choice between the automation locks, code triggered on automation check in or manually, and then you've got all of the connected locks too.

I wondered if there's anything that you'd like to to share or show in the remote lock platform.

Stuart from RemoteLock (17:40)
I was just gonna say Duncan, just on that last, you know, the demo you gave there, I think what's quite unique about what Elina has done compared to some of the other PMSs that we integrate with is the ability to change the check-in time from your your user user intervention dashboard. We don't see that very often. It's usually the case on an early check in or a late checkout, the host would have to come back to our dashboard, find the credential, and and and update it manually. So I think that's really, you know, it's really good that you guys have

done such a deep integration to just to make that much easier for for the host.

Duncan (18:13)
We wanted to make it as easy as possible.

Stuart from RemoteLock (18:19)
Okay, so I'll give you a quick overview of our remote lock, our remote lock dashboard. And and this is primarily really for managing, mainly for managing your devices. So on our dashboard here, you can see we've got lots of different dot different types of devices. And because this is a test account, I think what this really demonstrates is the breadth of our hardware integrations. So on this particular account, we're showing locks from Dharmacaba, TT Lock, HID, Mercury, Igaloo.

Schlage, Simpled, we've got a water sensor here, we've got a thermostat, we've got all these different devices all managed from from what you know from one platform. I think the main thing from our point of view, the most useful thing here is we have a an ongoing, on running event history. So anytime

Duncan (19:07)
Mm.

Stuart from RemoteLock (19:08)
a lock is used across your whole property portfolio, the event history gets updated. So you can see you can see what's going on.

A lot of this functionality has been replicated by Elina because of the the depth of the integration.

Duncan (19:23)
Yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (19:24)
where we have got maybe additional functionality is round is round reporting. If you need to produce audit trails to show when devices have been used and who's who's who's used them,

we can allow you to export the admin logs or export the the access data. we can also from our setup

control how you would create common doors. And this is where you have one code to be used with multiple on on multiple doors, or we have have our door groups that the you know that that we we talked about. So, you know, generally what happens is when you when you start working with remote lock, you'll come into the remote lock dashboard like this, you'll set the locks up, you'll do some configuration, get get it all up and running. And then in most cases you might never have to come back.

And use our user interface. The main exception to that might be if you've say got a a tradesman or wanting to set up members of staff, you you would in our system, you might create a user which allows 24-7 access to particular to particular doors. So but generally most of the anything to do with guest experience, guest access would be done, you know, from from Elina. So that just kind of gives you an overview

of the all of what it looks like. Although I should say

I should say we are about to update this with a whole new fresh look. and it's

Duncan (20:50)
Wow.

Stuart from RemoteLock (20:50)
a shame that we couldn't show you the the new dashboard because it will b be, you know, a lot more useful information on here.

Duncan (20:57)
But you know,

it's something exciting for people to look forward to so they can keep their eye on remote lock and have a look to see when you kinda roll that out. but I appreciate you to taking us through and just giving us a bit of flavour and also showing kind of from a s from a sort of an Elina integration perspective, like what they're gonna be actually using in the remote lock login versus in Elina. That's really great.

So I think

Jessica Dion (21:17)
Yeah.

Duncan (21:19)
I just wanted to ask one more question to you guys today, so Jessica I'll ask yourself. and that's what are you guys excited about? What's next for Remote Lock? What are you guys excited about? What's on the horizon for the rest of the rest of twenty twenty six and into twenty twenty seven?

Jessica Dion (21:32)
Yeah.

lots of stuff to be excited about for sure. as you know, we are lock agnostic, something that we're always looking to do is expand our hardware support. So we're always adding additional hardware support for our end users. So you know whether it's a lock that they're already using or something that they plan to use. We're also excited about additional credential types with specific locks.

you know, we're rolling out those card credentials, mob more mobile forward credentials and all of the additional IOT pieces

Duncan (22:09)
Internet of things for

people who

Jessica Dion (22:10)
of the

pu ex I exactly sorry, I'm speaking speaking in code for some people maybe.

Duncan (22:12)
Internet of things. That's okay. Acronym acronym away, Jess. It's okay.

Jessica Dion (22:17)
Yes, IoT, the yeah the Internet of Things in terms of like that's where the thermostat, the leak sensor, all of the additional devices besides just the locks, that's where they come into play. yeah, Stuart, what else

Duncan (22:30)
Super.

Jessica Dion (22:30)
what else is coming that we're excited about?

Stuart from RemoteLock (22:32)
Well the the main one that we're

we're just about we have actually released is Virtual Intercom and this is

Jessica Dion (22:37)
Mm-hmm.

Stuart from RemoteLock (22:38)
a again it's a QR code solution where you've got a QR code that you

Duncan (22:42)
Love QR codes.

Stuart from RemoteLock (22:43)
you mount on the outside of a building and the guests can come along and they can scan the QR code and it opens up a virtual directory of all the tenants in the building. So that and then it initiate you choose the tenant and then it initiates a video call with the tenant and then the tenant can effectively

unlock the front door by pressing a button. So it's it's

Duncan (23:02)
Right.

Stuart from RemoteLock (23:03)
it's a great alternative to traditional kind of non connected intercoms. And it also means that, you know, if you you might be in your apartment, but you might be on the loo looking at your phone and you don't hear the phone, you know, your not your traditional buzzer buzzing, but you would your phone, you'd get the notification on your phone and you could let

Duncan (23:21)
Yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (23:21)
say the d the delivery driver through the front door. So yeah, th that's a really exciting news.

Duncan (23:25)
Kind of more of a like sort of ring

doorbell type vibe where it's like coming through to your phone, you know. It's like

Stuart from RemoteLock (23:29)
It's a r it's a ring

doorbell vibe but without the cost of the ring doorbell it's just a

Duncan (23:33)
Without the cost

and without the without the ringtone that you hear everywhere in public. Yeah.

Jessica Dion (23:38)
Yeah.

Stuart from RemoteLock (23:37)
Yes, exactly. Exactly.

Jessica Dion (23:39)
And to that point,

Stuart from RemoteLock (23:40)
You

Jessica Dion (23:41)
you know, as you know, Stuart said, you could be on the loo and let someone in, but also you could be on a beach on the opposite side of the world and still have

Duncan (23:51)
Let someone in.

Jessica Dion (23:52)
be able to let someone into your property. So it's a big plus.

Duncan (23:55)
One hundred percent. Yep. You could

be at a public clue by a beach on the other side of the world. And still let someone in. A hundred percent.

Jessica Dion (23:59)
Yeah, you could. Exactly.

Stuart from RemoteLock (24:03)
Yes.

Duncan (24:04)
Well look, I think it remains for me just to say that thank you so much for joining us for our first coffee with Elina today. Thank you for taking us through about re remote lock. I've certainly learnt a lot more. I hope people watching have done too. So thank you, Jessica. thank you Stuart And if you like what you've seen today, in you're interested in RemoteLock you can just go to remotelock.com Yeah, go to remote lock dot com or search up RemoteLock in whichever AI search engine or

Maybe even Google these days still, and go and find them and have a look.

Jessica Dion (24:32)
The Googler.

Duncan (24:33)
And if you're interested in speaking to us, Elina, about the integration and seeing or asking any more questions, just reach out to one of our team at elinapms.com Cool. Thank you so much. Thank you.